their tax breaks? joining me tonight is sister simone campbell, leader of the nuns on the bus. sister, good to have you with us tonight. let's do the math, if we can, for just a moment. do you believe most churches have an extra $50,000 lying around to pick up the tab that ryan describes himself as a man of faith? how do we get through all of this? do the churches have the kind of money to follow the plan that he's putting forth? >> absolutely not. i mean, it's really shocking to think that he believes that churches can do this. what he doesn't know is how hard people are working right now, how much they depend on the food subsidies, just even to get food on family tables and how churches are stretched already in food pantries, feeding programs, all kinds of places already giving so much. this $50,000 for each house of worship would be an additional amount to what they have already raised. it's impossible. >> do people in the inner city need to be taught good discipline and good character. that's what paul ryan believes. >> i know. it's pretty shocking because he clearly has not been where